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YESTERDAY(Friday 24-8-2012) was one of the SADDEST DAYS OF MY LIFE when my sporting icon Cyclist Lance .Armstrong was convicted as a dope fraud in the sport of CYCLING.Having read his book"ITS NOT ABOUT THE BICYCLE" was impressed at his survival as a critical cancer patient and later winning the "TOUR DE FRANCE" 7 times.To me, Lance.Armstrong will always be the hero who fought of Cancer and taught other Cancer patients to combat this disease including India's very own Cricketer Yuvraj.Singh.What fascinates me about the "U.S JUSTICE SYSTEM" is that they are unafraid of reputations or going after one of their own if found out to be a "FRAUD".WHICH COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WOULD FILE A CASE AGAINST ITS OWN WORLD HERO "? I presume, after Muhammed.Ali, Cyclist Lance.Armstrong was the next most famous name in Sports, most notably for recovering from Cancer and later winning the "Tour De France" 7 times.

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Comment by Rudolph.A.Furtado on January 15, 2013 at 8:07am

LANCE ARMSTRONG CONFESSION AT THE OPRAH WINFREY SHOW :- Finally the cat is out of the bag. Sad that my hero Lance.Armstrong is officially guilty of cheating to win in a sport.I personally forgive him as a cycling fan and praise him for his luck and faith in surviving "CANCER".Hope the sport of "PROFESSIONAL CYCLING" is cured of the disease of doping although aspirations will always be cast on the cyclists who won before the "LANCE ARMSTRONG ERA". If a "7 Time Tour-De-France" winner could cheat the sports authorities for 7 years then what about the previous winners ? Not even a fool would buy the theory that only the "LANCE ARMSTRONG GENERATION" was guilty of doping in the sport of cycling. I personally feel that like the "Kennedy Assassination", the authorities should have closed the case without convicting Lance.Armstrong and hence saving the sport of cycling from the blemish of having tarnished sports officials.Was Lee Harvey Oswald the only person responsible for killing U.s.A President J.F.Kennedy ? Some answers are best left as questions to preserve the mystique. Apologize for comparing the sport of cycling with one of the World's most infamous assassinations, but, the similarities in infamy can't be ignored.CYCLING is forever tarnished due to the botch-up in the "LANCE ARMSTRONG DOPING AFFAIR"? How did he remain un-detected for so long ? elementary Watson, the case should have closed as "UNSOLVED" rather than "SOLVED"!

Comment by Rudolph.A.Furtado on September 12, 2012 at 11:06am

WATCHED THE INTERVIEW ON "B.B.C HARDTALK" WHERE  FORMER CYCLIST TYLER .HAMILTON SPOKE TO B.B.C CORRESPONDENT Mr Tim.Franks.. SEEMS THAT LANCE.ARMSTRONG WAS THE SMARTEST CYCLIST NEVER TO GET CAUGHT AS PER TYLER.HAMILTON'S  BOOK AND CONFESSION.HE ADMITS THAT ALMOST ALL THE PROFESSIONAL CYCLISTS OF HIS GENNERATION WERE TAINTED BY "E.P.O" AND "BLOOD DOPING", A MUST TO SUCCEED IN PROFESIONAL CYCLING OF THE "Lance .Armstrong ERA". HE ALSO ADMITS THAT LANCE.ARMSTRONG IS THE BEST SPORTSMAN HE HAS SEEN IRRESPECTIVE OF THE DRUGS SCANDALS. Watch the interview today, a must for all cycling enthusiasts and cyclists. The following extract is from "B.B.C" :-For years, it's been one of the biggest questions in sport: did cyclist Lance Armstrong, the seven-time winner of the Tour de France, dope? Lance Armstrong has denied wrongdoing but now a former teammate and roommate of Armstrong's, Tyler Hamilton, has produced the most detailed and wounding set of allegations yet. Tyler Hamilton tells Tim Franks about the "dark era of cycling" and his hope that transparency about the past will make for a cleaner sport in the future. You can watch the full interview on BBC World News on Tuesday 11th September 2012 at 03:30, 08:30, 15:30 and 20:30 GMT. It also broadcasts on the BBC News Channel in the UK at 04:30 BST on Tuesday 11th September and 00:30 BST on Wednesday 12th September 2012.

Comment by Bikram Kumar Sahoo on September 5, 2012 at 5:13pm

Lance is Not Fraud. He is a HERO

Comment by Rudolph.A.Furtado on August 31, 2012 at 8:50am

Having started this debate feel sad that Mr Will.Satur from Melbourne has erased his part of the debate with Mr Faraz.Shahbazker. It was very engrossing and a "CASE-STIDY" for would be lawyers and cycling enthusiasts.I myself have never ever erased any of my blogs , videos , debates or opinions irrespective if seen in "Bad Light" or on "CONTROVERSIAL TOPICS" like the "LANCE ARMSTRONG DOPING CASE-2012". I myself was and still is a fan of "LANCE.ARMSTRONG" despite his sullen reputation post the anti-doping scandal.Lance.Armstrong has done to the sport of cycling what Muhammed.Ali did to the sport of boxing decades ago, made the sport  popular and a house-hold name.I personally feel that akin to the "MUHAMMED ALI BOXING ERA" similarly the "LANCE ARMSTRONG ERA" could be the zenith of cycling popularity where the sport might now gradually decline in popularity.How would a cycling fan in future be sure that his idol is not 100% DRUG FRE while winning the "TOUR DE FRANCE"? If Lance.Armstrong could cheat authorities for 7 consequetive "TOUR DE FRANCE" wins what about the lesser winners.What about winners who preceded Lance.Armstrong era? The "LANCE ARMSTRONG" case has opened a pandora's box of suspiscion and controversy for future generations of cyclists as well as past winners. Only hope that  cycling as a hobby sport progresses as it has in India in the recent decade with billionaires riding cycles as a source of exercise for early morning work-outs.This  was Lance.Armstrongs lasting legacy to the sport of cycling, he made it popular in country's where the vehicle, the cycle, was a embarrassment mode of transport to educated middle-class people.Similarly hope the professional sport of road cycling "TOUR DE FRANCE" recovers from the Lance.Armstrong scandal.

Comment by Cornelius on August 30, 2012 at 5:23pm

I have been following this debate and found Faraz's arguments very reasoned, factual and extremely well written too. Like LA giving up the fight, Will won't post any more, it seems :) Many feel bad for Lance, me included. But the truth is staring him in the face. Heck, would all those apologists for him back Ben Johnson too?

Comment by Faraz Shahbazker on August 30, 2012 at 9:58am

Just a final note here for people who might come around reading this thread and think I was a fool to be talking to myself, Mr. Will Satur was debating some points in defence of Lance Armstrong and for some reason he got angry and decided to delete all his posts, leaving mine hanging.

I realize that what is left of the debate might not make sense to most people, but there are still some good points and links in there, so I'll leave them in place. Thank you Will. Always a pleasure.

Comment by Faraz Shahbazker on August 30, 2012 at 9:44am

Wow, you really read Lance's workbook well. When faced with the truth, revert to ad-hominem :)

Can't handle the message, shoot the messenger.

5 mentions of anger in that last post: make one wonder who is really angry here? AFAIK, we're making progress: Denial -> Anger. Only 3 more to go.

Btw, your schooling is pretty irrelevant to the point. I face the same abuse on the roads in India and no Lance Armstrong did nor ever will make a difference. You think all the vehicular-morons are in your country, think again.

Comment by Faraz Shahbazker on August 30, 2012 at 9:04am

How can you move on if you're still stuck in denial? You are still stuck on the "due process" track, in spite of me breaking everything down for you. He was provided due process: he refused (unless you have a better reason) because he does not want the evidence to come out.

Don't really care who gets a yellow jersey - almost everyone around Lance in that era has been sanctioned at one time or another - so they have paid their dues. He's the only one left to do so. Besides, the sport is much bigger than LA or Tour de France. With LA, they've taken out 3 dope doctors, one trainer and one DS who were still working in the sport.

If you are so hung-up on the cancer aspect, you can continue to idolize Lance on those grounds. The TdF victories or loss thereof should mean nothing to you.  Seven(nay, 13: from 1998 to 2010) year doped-up competition is not "a mistake". Its was a deliberate choice. It was not a choice between living job-less vs. staying in the pro peleton. He chose to dominate the sport and enrich himself a great deal(link posted by Rudolph below) and lie to people and play with their emotions and ruin careers.

You like to believe the best in everyone: then believe the best in Christopher Bassons, Filippo Simeoni, Emma O'reilly, Mike Anderson, Dr. Saugy, Betsie and Frank Andreu, Pierre Bordry, Greg Lemond, David Walsh, Paul Kimmage, Floyd Landis, Tyler Hamilton and more than 10 other yet un-named US pro-cyclists too. Cheers.

Comment by Rudolph.A.Furtado on August 29, 2012 at 5:55pm

The personal  wealth of Lance.Armstrong before the "DOPING SCANDAL Check the link:-".

Comment by Rudolph.A.Furtado on August 29, 2012 at 5:47pm

Read this link. Lance .Armstrong Foundation has raised 500 Million U.S Dollars to date.:-


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